The liberal media goal the Catholic Church as a result of it’s one of many few world establishments they hadn’t utterly bent to their worldview. That’s why, throughout their vapid protection of the beginning of the Conclave that will choose a brand new pope, CBS Mornings produced a complete section devoted to calling for a pope extra “progressive” than Pope Francis. They went thus far to name for monks to be allowed to behave on lustful temptations.
CBS Mornings co-anchor Tony Dokoupil couched the push to liberalize the Catholic Church in what would quantity to a Faustian cut price to retain and appeal to new worshipers. “[O]n any given Sunday, again in America, the variety of Catholics on their solution to mass has been dwindling,” he famous. “Weekly or almost weekly attendance is down 12 % since 2000, in line with Gallup.”
For instance of an individual the church was lacking out on, Dokoupil spoke with American flight attendant Kathy Freeman, who claimed to the a Catholic however mentioned she refused to boost her children within the religion as a result of the church didn’t enable girls to be monks:
FREEMAN: I don’t know, I see it extra political than divine intervention to be trustworthy with you.
DOKOUPIL: How political? What do you imply?
FREEMAN: Similar to politics in the US. It is one other authorities up there.
DOKOUPIL: Like greater than 40 % of American Catholics surveyed in a brand new CBS Information ballot, she’s hoping the successor to Francis continues his teachings. However she’s so unhappy with features of the present church, she raised her personal youngsters exterior of it.
FREEMAN: I’d love as a Catholic to see feminine intervention in all elements of the service.
DOKOUPIL: Actually?
FREEMAN: Oh, yeah.
DOKOUPIL: You wish to see feminine monks?
FREEMAN: Sure.
Freeman did appear to have a grasp of the religion since she mentioned the Conclave was not directed by the Holy Spirit, a core perception of the church.
To again up Freeman, co-anchor Norah O’Donnell recounted a disappointing interplay she had with Pope Francis the place he declined to have girls be a part of the clergy. “It is a query that I requested Pope Francis in my interview, may slightly Catholic woman develop up and suppose perhaps she might be a deacon sometime or member of the clergy. He mentioned ‘no,’” she lamented
However O’Donnell did have hope for upended the Catholic Church, together with a CBS Information ballot:
Nevertheless, the Synod is finding out the thought of ladies as deacons. And once I too was down there at St. Peter’s Basilica, Sister Rose from the Sisters of St. Paul, got here up and mentioned, ‘sure, we have to push for extra girls must be a part of the clergy.’
And so – folks do, as you noticed in our CBS Information polling, they need somebody – 40 % need somebody like pope Francis, one other 20 % need somebody extra progressive than him.
Dokoupil’s thought for including “extra expertise within the clergy” was “opening it as much as girls” “or perhaps altering the celibacy legal guidelines.”
That want to alter the celibacy legal guidelines betrayed a profound ignorance of the Catholic perception of Jesus Christ and the connection to the monks of his religion. It additionally uncovered a sort of hypocrisy the place they praised Francis’s easy lifestyle, basically praising him sheading the lethal sins of greed and satisfaction, however they wished monks to dwell in lust.
To Dokoupil’s credit score, he did communicate with a bunch of younger males who had been adamant that the Catholic Church didn’t want to alter to be able to “accommodate sure fashionable beliefs” because the CBS anchor put it:
DOKOUPIL: Does the church have to accommodate sure fashionable beliefs and methods of life to suit them throughout the historical past of the church?
ALEX HAROLD: No. No. The church doesn’t want to suit the age. That is why it is 2,000 years previous.
The transcript is beneath. Click on “develop’ to learn:
ABC’s The View
Might 7, 2025
7:30:16 a.m. JapTONY DOKOUPIL: Welcome again to our dwell protection of the Conclave. We’re in Rome overlooking Vatican Metropolis. A dwell shot there of St. Peter’s Sq.. And this morning’s Conclave mass, we’ve got footage of that, as properly.
If historical past is any information, greater than 100,000 folks will quickly fill that sq. you simply noticed in your display, the one proper behind me. However the actuality is on any given Sunday again in America, the variety of Catholics on their solution to mass has been dwindling. Weekly or almost weekly attendance is down 12 % since 2000, in line with Gallup. One thing many individuals we spoke to right here in Rome are very keenly conscious of.
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Even within the glow of a really world church, you’ll be able to’t assist operating into an American or two.
Had been you going to be right here anyway, or is that this a contented shock?
UNIDENTIFIED MAN 1: Completely happy shock.
DOKOUPIL: Many who had already deliberate to absorb the historical past right here now discover themselves with the fortunate probability to see it being made.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN 2: You already know, it is a — in all probability as soon as in a lifetime alternative to be in Rome after they’re doing the Conclave.
DOKOUPIL: How are you? The place you from?
KATHY FREEMAN: New Jersey.
DOKOUPIL: It’s a part of America.
DOKOUPIL: Kathy Freeman and Nancy Flynn are flight attendants who simply flew into Rome for work.
You are Catholics?
FREEMAN: I’m, she’s southerner. So —
DOKOUPIL: What does that imply? Protestant, Baptist?
FREEMAN: She’s Baptist.
DOKOUPIL: Most of the trustworthy we spoke to do imagine God will, in truth, be guiding immediately’s conclave.
What are you hoping for?
UNIDENTIFIED MAN 3: Not hoping for a lot as a result of the Holy Spirit will hopefully lead both the cardinals or lead the pope after the choice. He’ll be successor of Christ both method. It is not about my opinions.
DOKOUPIL: For Freeman, that is not so clear.
FREEMAN: I don’t know, I see it extra political than divine intervention to be trustworthy with you.
DOKOUPIL: How political? What do you imply?
FREEMAN: Similar to politics in the US. It is one other authorities up there.
DOKOUPIL: Like greater than 40 % of American Catholics surveyed in a brand new CBS Information ballot, she’s hoping the successor to Francis continues his teachings. However she’s so unhappy with features of the present church, she raised her personal youngsters exterior of it.
FREEMAN: I’d love as a Catholic to see feminine intervention in all elements of the service.
DOKOUPIL: Actually?
FREEMAN: Oh, yeah.
DOKOUPIL: You wish to see feminine monks?
FREEMAN: Sure.
DOKOUPIL: It’s the sort of story Father Thomas Reese is aware of all too properly. As a priest and a longtime chronicler of the religion.
FATHER THOMAS REESE: We’re going by way of a disaster within the Catholic Church, in the US and particularly the worldwide north. We have now younger individuals who simply aren’t and are leaving. It is one thing like one out of three people who find themselves baptized Catholic not determine as Catholic in the US. That is enormous!
DOKOUPIL: How do you repair that?
REESE: You probably have a solution, I will vote for you as pope.
DOKOUPIL: Wait! Actually? That is it? You do not know —
REESE: I do not suppose — I believe we’re struggling.
DOKOUPIL: Whereas having fun with the sights and the flavors of Rome, we additionally bumped into these younger males from Missouri who instructed us concerning the potential for change as they see it within the Catholic Church.
Are you hoping that the pope who emerges on that balcony in a matter of days takes the church in a extra liberal course or extra conservative course?
JACKSON GAETA: The objective — I imply, in the end is uniting each. That may be probably the most good factor to occur right here.
ALEX HAROLD: Extra so than needing someone who’s left or proper, we simply want someone who’s like – is a champion of the religion, that everyone can get behind.
DOKOUPIL: Does the church have to accommodate sure fashionable beliefs and methods of life to suit them throughout the historical past of the church?
UNIDENTIFIED MAN 4: No.
HAROLD: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN 4: It is not the way it works.
HAROLD: No. The church doesn’t want to suit the age. That is why it is 2,000 years previous.
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DOKOUPIL: And Norah, that is one perspective proper there. The church does not want to alter. We would like that continuity, they are saying. That is what makes it highly effective and delightful.
However so many different folks like that flight attendant, Kathy Freeman, mentioned I am Catholic, I’m nonetheless Catholic, however my youngsters will not be. And actually she mentioned particularly as a result of she desires to see girls in positions of management.
NORAH O’DONNELL: It is a query that I requested Pope Francis in my interview, may slightly Catholic woman develop up and suppose perhaps she might be a deacon sometime or member of the clergy. He mentioned “no.” Nevertheless, the Synod is finding out the thought of ladies as deacons. And once I too was down there at St. Peter’s Basilica, Sister Rose from the Sisters of St. Paul, got here up and mentioned, ‘sure, we have to push for extra girls must be a part of the clergy.’
And so – folks do, as you noticed in our CBS Information polling, they need somebody – 40 % need somebody like pope Francis, one other 20 % need somebody extra progressive than him.
DOKOUPIL: Yeah. Yeah, it’s a tremendous factor. One thing Father Reese instructed me is that one of many points with the church is that they want extra expertise within the clergy, opening it as much as girls could be one solution to that or perhaps altering the celibacy legal guidelines.
O’DONNELL: And specializing in social justice.
DOKOUPIL: Yeah. We’ll ship it again to you all again in Occasions Sq.. The very reverse I’d say of Vatican Metropolis.
GAYLE KING: The very reverse. Everyone’s making an attempt to learn the tea leaves we’ll know quickly sufficient. Thanks each.
