Even with former President Jimmy Carter’s passing over the weekend, Monday’s CBS Mornings nonetheless needed their dose of President-elect Trump. So, whereas liberal co-host Tony Dokoupil was talking with anti-Trump presidential historian Douglas Brinkley, the previous teed up the latter to recount how Carter had supposedly “guilted” Trump into making a present to the Carter Heart, a lot to the amusement of all of the liberals on set. However there didn’t appear to be any proof that Trump had written them a test.
“Properly, he wasn’t afraid of criticizing the previous presidents, proper? He did not suppose George H.W. Bush ought to have gone into Iraq, he thought Obama was fallacious on surveillance points, I imply, you title it,” Dokoupil stated. To which Brinkley famous that Carter was “not a part of that presidents’ membership in these methods.”
Brinkley then recalled a dialog he purportedly had with Trump at Mar-a-Lago a couple of time when Carter had requested Trump for some cash for the Carter Heart:
However I as soon as received to speak to Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago and requested him about presidents of his life. And I stated, what do you suppose, Mr. Trump, however Jimmy Carter? And he stated, ‘he’s not my cup of tea.’ And I stated, ‘properly, what do you imply not your cup of tea? Have you learnt him?’ He instantly stated, “Yeah, I received to spend time with him as soon as.” He stated, “I used to be trashing Carter in every single place, and you realize, beats saying what a failure he’s, worst president ever. I received a name that he needed to see me. And I believed, ‘Oh, I will get an earful of it now.” Carter confirmed up with the Secret Service, that is his ex-president. And he — and instantly Carter stated to Trump, “Now, I am attempting to save lots of lives around the globe, you realize with the guinea worm and we’re doing this on the Carter Heart. And I want a considerable present of cash from you.
“He guilted him,” boasted co-host Michelle Miller as all of them busted out laughing. “He guilted him,” Brinkley agreed. “I adore it. I adore it,” added Dokoupil.
However whereas CBS tried to make it appear as if Trump had given the Carter Heart “a considerable present of cash,” the info don’t appear to help it.
In a 2015 Washington Submit article titled “The time Jimmy Carter requested Donald Trump for $5 million,” the paper quoted an excerpt of Trump’s Artwork of the Deal the place he instructed an identical story:
After he misplaced the election to Ronald Reagan, Carter got here to see me in my workplace. He instructed me he was in search of contributions to the Jimmy Carter Library. I requested how a lot he had in thoughts. And he stated, “Donald, I’d be very appreciative should you contributed 5 million {dollars}.”
However the article included a important element, the place Trump wrote: “I used to be dumbfounded. I didn’t even reply him.”
Trump’s non-answer to Carter was additionally famous within the Metropolis Journal’s obituary for Carter:
Within the early Eighties, Carter visited the true property developer and future president Donald Trump in New York and requested him to contribute $5 million to the Carter Heart. Trump was startled by the ex-president’s chutzpah and hardly bothered to reply. However he admitted later that he admired the ambition and even the gall of the request.
So it seems that the cash requested was extra for the founding of the Carter Library and never the Carter Heart’s later charity works oversees, as CBS framed it. And whereas they boated that Trump was “guilted” into giving cash, it didn’t appear as if a test was written. The Carter Heart doesn’t checklist Trump as one in every of their “Funding Companions.” CBS additionally made it appear as if the guilting occurred way more just lately than the in Eighties as Trump wrote about it.
The transcript is beneath. Click on “develop” to learn:
CBS Mornings
December 30, 2024
7:13:14 a.m. Japanese(…)
TONY DOKOUPIL: It was as soon as stated that Jimmy Carter is the one particular person in historical past to make use of the White Home as a stepping stone for greatness due to all that he did after. And it appeared as if due to solely 4 years in workplace he was making up for one thing. He was very busy. What would he need his legacy to be at this time?
DOUGLAS BRINKLEY: I feel that he gained a Nobel Peace Prize which represents for him all of the work he did at stopping civil wars around the globe, of monitoring free and honest elections, of combating river blindness, guinea worm illness, tuberculosis, leprosy, you title it.
It is fascinating, Carter as ex-president, needed to destroy a illness, he did not — wasn’t any individual who was going into most cancers analysis and discovering new methods and extra improved expertise. He simply needed to wipe it out.
DOKOUPIL: He was aggressive, proper? He had an edge.
BRINKLEY: The important thing to him, tremendous aggressive. In truth, I spent a while speaking to President Carter in Plains about all presidents. And FDR had a huge impact on him as a result of FDR was in a wheelchair proper there on the Little White Home was in Georgia, down the nation highway from Plains. So, while you’re a child within the Melancholy, FDR’s on the town. After which he liked Harry Truman, the directness of Truman. And I feel as a result of Truman was additionally a Baptist, and Carter was, and actually a southern Baptist from Missouri.
However the — he did not get together with a lot of the different presidents. Now, Gerry Ford grew to become his closest pal, the particular person he beat in 1976. So, now they are often mates.
DOKOUPIL: Properly, he wasn’t afraid of criticizing the previous presidents, proper? He did not suppose George H.W. Bush ought to have gone into Iraq, he thought Obama was fallacious on surveillance points, I imply, you title it.
BRINKLEY: And he not a part of that presidents membership in these methods. He did so much throughout Bush 41 due to his friendship with James Baker, which is predicated on looking, Quayle looking, and Christianity.
However I as soon as received to speak to Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago and requested him about presidents of his life. And I stated, what do you suppose, Mr. Trump, however Jimmy Carter? And he stated, ‘he’s not my cup of tea.’ And I stated, ‘properly, what do you imply not your cup of tea? Have you learnt him?’ He instantly stated, “Yeah, I received to spend time with him as soon as.” He stated, “I used to be trashing Carter in every single place, and you realize, beats saying what a failure he’s, worst president ever. I received a name that he needed to see me. And I believed, ‘Oh, I will get an earful of it now.” Carter confirmed up with the Secret Service, that is his ex-president. And he — and instantly Carter stated to Trump, “Now, I am attempting to save lots of lives around the globe, you realize with the guinea worm and we’re doing this on the Carter Heart. And I want a considerable present of cash from you.”
[Laughter]
DOKOUPIL: I like that.
MICHELLE MILLER: He guilted him.
BRINKLEY: He guilted him. And Trump stated, “That is the primary time I ever discovered how he grew to become president. As a result of he was this Jimmy who was ’76. Trump did not get the lower of his jib, you realize, and instantly he had the nerve to return in my workplace after I’m trashing him and make me really feel responsible about giving cash to the Carter Heart.”
DOKOUPIL: I adore it. I adore it.
MILLER: Can we speak about his civil rights report? As a result of a lot of it got here simply earlier than his win on the White Home and the definitely lengthy after.
BRINKLEY: Have in mind popping out of Georgia politics, Jimmy Carter’s — there isn’t any picture of Carter with Martin Luther King Jr. He stayed away from him. It could have been poisonous for Carter to have gotten — one governor. However he did promise in 1970 to David Rabahan, his backer who was Jewish and had his workplace of the Southern Christian Management Convention. He instructed him David, who had been giving him use of the personal airplane across the states, most likely an excessive amount of so; ‘If I turn into governor, I’ll say it is time to finish segregation now.’
And he lived as much as his phrase and received sworn in as governor. And he stated it, and it made the duvet of TIME journal as a result of David Rockefeller and the Unilateral Fee was in search of a southerner to placed on the fee, Kissinger was on it, you realize, Japan, Germany, U.S. foreign money, stuff. And now Carter grew to become the token southerner within the japanese institution.
DOKOUPIL: You recognize, Carter as soon as stated that if he had any regrets it will have been to ship another helicopter to Iran to rescue the hostages. They might have gotten them out, and he would have been re-elected. And that’s what he stated. Do you suppose that is true? Do you suppose that is what made the distinction for him?
BRINKLEY: He used it as a joke line, however I do suppose it is true. However a critic of Carter in that second. You recognize, he needed rubber bullets used on that rescue. So, he needed no deaths. So, we had been going to land folks and have the ability to knock out folks on the embassy to convey our folks residence, as a result of he needed no blood on his arms. There’s an overlapping of Carter’s very — the necessary position of Christ in his life.
DOKOUPIL: Sure.
BRINKLEY: And what does that imply for a sitting president. And he is most proud that he did not get us right into a international warfare, as he would inform me, “Look, I may have bombed Tehran and been on the information in America at warfare, however we might have had a loss of life toll. My means of doing it was gradual, however ultimately all of the hostages received launched.”
DOKOUPIL: Christianity did information his life.
